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I just got a GOLDEN email from Delicious. They are focused on 'simplifying the Delicious website' and as such are 'consolidating stacks and tags' IE THEY ARE KILLING THE STACKS BECAUSE 'we realized the value of stacks is limited for our users moving forward.'

NO FUCKING SHIT WAY TO CATCH A RIDE ON THE CLUE TRAIN A YEAR LATER.

My personal favorite bit:
● All stacks will be converted automatically into tags. Stack titles will transition into new tag names, and will be applied to all links currently in a stack.

Stack-specific descriptions, categories, comments, link order, and stack followers will not be included as part of the migration.
(emphasis mine)

FEET-KICKING-LY PERFECT.
drunkoffthestars: (FOB - and this is where your brain woul)
Man, crossposting has interesting drawbacks. Icon that goes with this entry:

So delicious has 'restored tag bundles' except for THAT IS NOT HOW TAG BUNDLES ARE SUPPOSED TO WORK.

When you click on a tag bundle? IT DISPLAYS ALL THE LINKS THAT ARE TAGGED WITH ANY OF THE TAGS IN THE BUNDLE.

YOU KNOW WHAT IS USELESS?

You get three guesses, the first two don't count, and the answer is right above the question. Also, there is still no way to display the tag bundles on your user page, rendering them STILL USELESS. (and as an aside, I like how the UI is so completely fucked that it takes me like 5 clicks and a bunch of scrolling to do what used to take me 2 clicks, 3 TOPS.)

Joyously, the first time I clicked on the 'tag bundle' page, I was shown NO TAG BUNDLES, so I tried to make a new tag bundle for all the authors, except apparently my tag bundles WERE there, they were just hiding, and by making a new bundle with the same name as an old one, I destroyed the old one.

Also, the page or my laptop is being wonky and it will not let me click links in the middle-to-bottom section of the page on that page so I can't add tags to the new bundle very effectively.

But that last bit doesn't even matter because some FUCKING GENIUS decided that only the epically LONG list of tags on the right hand side should scroll, and the designed-for-toddlers aesthetic caries through, so the left portion of the screen with the box that all the tags show up in has the font size set to LARGE and DOESN'T SCROLL so when you add to many tags, you have no way of getting to the 'save' button anyway.

GOOD WORK GUYS

*drink heavily*
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The whole delicious disaster has brought a MAJOR thing to my attention that I never thought to apply to fucking tech reporting, but learn something new every day. You know how when the mainstream media reports on something, they pull out the 'fair to both points of view' even when one of the points of view is coming from a rabid bear with a compulsive lying problem. And both 'points of view' are often regurgitated verbatim with absolutely ZERO analysis or fact-checking or ANY hint that anything that either party is saying might not be 100% true or accurate.

Yeah, the tech world does that with an incredibly irritating overlay of fawning sycophantery. (Is that even a word? NO. Do I even care? NO.)

cut for some ranting \o/ )

I will leave you with this super-great quote from some dude whose name I may or may not be supposed to recognize at AVOS:
We’ve been focused on making the transition from Yahoo happen as fast as possible. Because of this, we needed to reduce some functionality in the short term and introduce a basic set of new features to get the site out the door. From our standpoint, it’s a competitive market and we’re going to err on the side of speed versus perfection to hopefully build a larger, more compelling experience. We’ll always be listening to the community and will literally be updating the product on a daily basis.”


My Interpretation:
We planned it this way all along, we made absolutely no study of who used the old service or how those people actually used it, it was kind of an impulse purchase, we don't actually care about the gagillion people who've already saved massive numbers of curated bookmarks with us, we're hoping to drive them off and keep the data to make a facebook wannabe that we can slap keyword ads all over and then sell to some sucker a la youtube. And yeah, we can't code our way out of a paper bag, hopefully the site will actually start working eventually. But not too soon, don't want those 'non-mainstream' users coming back to use their data!


IDK, I still think it'll mostly come back eventually. Emphasis on eventually. Long after the daily users have fucked off.
drunkoffthestars: by doitninetimes, not for sharing (COBRA - fangs up!)
I've had the delicious plugin installed, and since yahoo tried to force that wretched redesign of the popup/old bookmarker, I've been running the plugin in advanced mode.

Today, for no apparent reason, it decided to completely fuck over Firefox )

Enough. I'm going to go read something extra fluffy courtesy of Pinboard (ps my username is doitninetimes, and if I ever figure out a clean way to pull rss feeds + tags and all metadata from them, I'll let you know for ppl who are into finding fic that way)

And really, I truly believe that at some point delicious will be back to being functional, but in the mean time, I'm going to get my money's worth out of pinboard, so idek if there will be a point to trying to keep up my account, which would be sad. Sept 2005, you guys. That's when I first bookmarked an ancient popslash story on delicious.
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For those still trying to get their bookmarks: THIS WORKS. Thanks [personal profile] brownbetty! I think it should work even if your data isn't showing up on the new website, but don't quote me on that. When in doubt, keep refreshing until it works?

NOTE: if you are having trouble editing the hosts file in windows, rightclick --> properties and check if the 'read-only' box is ticked. Also, if you run Spybot/Tea Timer, you will need to disable it before you can edit the file.


Also, I like how someone finally clued in to the fact that having a rabid horde of ANGRY ANGRY MONKEYS spewing bile everywhere about how you can't code your way out of a paper bag was maybe NOT the best situation to be in. Reading between the lines, it sounds like they really did just buy all the user info and none of the software. /o\ christ almighty.

I'd also like to know who decided to make it a whole different blogspot blog instead of posting on either of their own websites. /cynic

And if you are using/planning on using pinboard, fandom-in-general is collecting suggestions/requests here. AWW FANDOM, I JUST WANT TO PINCH YOUR CUTE LITTLE CHEEKS! Some ideas are less *ahem* realistic than others, but go put your two cents in if you are planning on using the service.

Oh, and my favorite comment since this whole thing got going:
people tweeting about @Delicious seem to be in two camps: the Pissed Off and the marketing people.
Um. Yeah.
drunkoffthestars: (FOB - and this is where your brain woul)
APPROPRIATE ICON IS APPROPRIATE
and this is where you're brain would go

THINGS THAT WILL BE HILARIOUS WHEN THEY FIGURE OUT WHAT IT MEANS
The Pinboard twitter posted this morning:
Really enjoying the HN vs. fanfic collision on the /popular/ page. Enjoy this, founders, it's as close to real women as some of you will get

And I did take a look and chorttle a moment (despite also being mildly annoyed). And then I realized that their 'most popular bookmark? Has *147* bookmarks. Most of them only have 20-40. If fandom does complete the migration there, SOME PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE VERY SURPRISED BY WHAT THEIR POPULAR LINKS PAGE WILL TURN INTO. Like, popular stories can have 20 bookmarks EASILY. And I know the scale is going to be a bit reduced because not everyone can/will make the jump, but LULZ. They have no idea what is coming if fandom continues to heavily use their site.

The other thing that will be hilarious is when we convert old pinterest users to our fanish ways. >:D

THINGS I AM FIGURING OUT
If you don't have a Pinterest account and are disinclined to buy one, you can still access bookmarks from users and site-wide tags via RSS feeds. How to make that actually work, IDEK, but it is a thing that can happen. At the very least, if you use Google Reader, you should be able to pull things in. I've seen some comments about Google Reader not displaying tags, but I'm sure we can figure something out.

CONTINUED PROGRAMMING EDUCATION IS ... INTERESTING
Uh, so. Let's face it, I have no idea what I'm doing, but I got the Ruby Script to pull my bookmarks with the correct dates to run without error messages, but, uh, nothing else happened? I think I'm missing a dependency of some sort, and it said something about getting the developer version of Ruby, not just the 'run stuff' version, so we'll see what's what later today I think.

MAKING OUR OWN
This is apparently still something [personal profile] rageprufrock is trying to get off the ground. Send her your email address if you're interested in helping out! If you want to keep updated on the progress of said project, you can follow her twitter, and I assume she'll post about it on her journal.

FOR FOLKS USING PINBOARD
Here are some useful links. I don't really like what the 'cleanup' scripts do, but the favicon one is A++.

SOME PRETTY GREAT THINGS ABOUT USING NEW BROKEN DELICIOUS
So, (after clinking on the first thing they told me was a bookmarklet, only to have it send me elsewhere for a new bookmarklet) I bookmarked a new thing on delicious. And you want to hear the awesome part? THERE ARE NO SCROLL BARS ON THE POPUP WINDOW. NO. SCROLL. BARS. *dies laughing*

LULZ NO SCROLL BARS

All that white space? DOESN'T REALLY WORK FOR THOSE OF US WHO ARE WORKING ON 12.1 INCH LAPTOP SCREENS. *dies forever of both hilarity and irritation*

Other than that, it... worked? I mean, there was no evidence of autocomplete, but I saved a bookmark? And I was prepared for the comma thing?

But really, my favorite feature is how when you stack two bookmarks you've made, you don't see the tags. That is a really A++GENIOUS idea right there.

AND THE CHERRY ON TOP
The First 20 Hours according to dome dude who works there. I like how they are So! Positive! All! The! Time! they can't even be bothered to apologize to all the people they freaked out or acknowledge in some minor way that it was a complete disaster.
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1. THE FAINTEST RAY OF HOPE.

So, while I find other explanations much more likely and plausible, given my experience over the last 10 years with the internet, there are some more benign and hopeful responsibilities for why delicious has suddenly turned into such a shitshow.

Apparently, when Yahoo! bought del.icio.us, they
"rebuilt the entire infrastructure to deeply leverage a number of internal Yahoo technologies. It’s all great stuff but not exactly easy to remove or replace. Yahoo may have to license some of this technology to the buyer. I’m not sure they’ve done that before."

Assuming this is true, and assuming that Yahoo! wanted to, dump Delicious asap, and wasn't interested in licensing the technology (or the buyers weren't interested in paying for it), that means that they've been re-writing Delicious from scratch and this is as far as they've gotten by Yahoo!'s deadline. And I'm not the only one who has come up with this, so that's something?

And of course, if they're re-writing everything, it isn't going to be nearly as well tested as older code, so of course there are going to be about a bajillion errors (though that doesn't excuse the 'not escaping special characters, particularly the /' (assuming that was not an act of malice to get rid of users who do not fit their target demographic/usage group).

They do have a list of 'future features' that are supposed to exist at some point in the future, and I think if those features do end up happening, that'll take care of 90% of the complaints, and everything will be sunshine and roses! Yay!



2. MAKING THE SHITSHOW WORK FOR YOU )



3. ALTERNATIVES )



4. ANOTHER (DISTANT) OPTION. BUILD IT OURSELVES. )



5. FINDING THE LOST NETWORK

Ok, this is a tiny bit beautiful. Google spreadsheet for finding where the folks on your network are/are going. Well over 5,000 ppl have accessed, though only ~100 have entered any info (understandable, it was RT'd by the Pinboard twitter), but people! You can find them!



6. COMMENTARY I HAVE NOT SEEN ELSEWHERE RE: THE NEXT BIG THING IN THE TECH WORLD )



7. OTHER PEOPLE SAYING THINGS THAT I FIND RELEVANT )



8. MISC LINKSPAM )
drunkoffthestars: (FOB - pete zone of terror)
You may or may not know (or care), but Delicious is kinda 100% fuxored right now.

PROBLEM 1: I tried to export today, and the dates are all fucked up when I import into Pinboard. ) SOLVED! Sorta. The date number is a decimal integer that represents the number of seconds elapsed since midnight January 1, 1970. *headdesk* I would really like to know who came up with THAT bright idea.

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