drunkoffthestars | I am wearing my "kind of an asshole" hat, isn't it pretty?

BANDFLESH - I DON'T GET WHAT THE FUSS IS.

at first, I didn't get what the community was doing, then I thought it was boring, and now I kinda get why it would be entertaining (though I myself do not have a million hours to go capslock about peebabies and Teh Peen). I still haven't seen a link to the OMGRACISM (that I think started the whole to-do), and I have yet to find the bits where they SAY MEAN THINGS, so I remain utterly in the dark about why exactly there so much anti-bandflesh sentiment. Um? Yeah, I guess maybe I'd feel a little different if I was told that people were SAYING MEAN THINGS about me there, but... I dunno. I sort of feel like it is the *internet*. That's were people go to say mean things! And besides, the actual comm itself seems fairly harmless to me?

I guess I just see a difference between the way anonymity is used there and the way it is used in a lot of other situations. It is set up to be more than just some place where you can mouth off and talk smack. IDK.

You guys who hate that comm can totes defriend me over this, I guess. I'll just cry into my pillow at night. 'S cool.

But really. The actual reason I care at all about this wank is the part where one of the awesome-er (I can only say that b/c SO MANY HAVE YET TO BE POSTED) Big Bang stories got deleted when someone deleted her journal due to said wank. BUT! I did find out that my beloved Google has cached it, so I can keep it forever! \o/ I'll have to see if I can track down an email for the author, b/c I really really liked it.

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First of all, I didn't mean to sound inconsiderate. You know? Just. Here's how I see things.

And if the people being dogpiled aren't BNFs or haven't identified themselves as such is it still okay?

Of course not. I mean, dogpiling in general, it isn't cool. Doesn't matter who it's happening to. I didn't mean to imply that anyone should be attacked.

I have a problem with that statement. I don't believe that's what the internet is all about. I'm not trying to start an argument, but I don't believe that's what the internet and how we use it is for that. Or the ultimate purpose thereof.

Well, I'd like it to not be that way. And yeah, I've met a lot of great friends on the internet. And I love posting fic and I love blogging about how my cat has a dot next to his nose that looks like a booger. But I've just- been around too long to really be surprised anymore when I hear that someone's feelings are hurt because someone else is talking shit. And yeah, it's totally happened to me too. It's just. A matter of making yourself not care. Sucks that that's how it has to be, but that's how it has to be. When you put yourself out there on the internet, eventually, you're gonna get shittalked. I mean, I'm not being an ass when I say that, because really- I'm not an ass. I'm really not an ass. I hope you believe that. I just kind of- you know, I've been there. And it sucks. I've had friends who've been there, and that sucks even more. But. It happens. Dwelling on it and making posts about how unfair it is never, ever changes the fact that it's going to fucking happen.

It totally sucks. But this is getting so much attention, and just. This shit happens everyday. To lots and lots of people. That's the nature of the internet.

Dwelling on it and making posts about how unfair it is never, ever changes the fact that it's going to fucking happen.

It's not the posts saying that it's unfair (and to be completely honest, the people that I've come across that have talked about it, have not once said it was about "Oh woe is me. Life is unfair. Internet why do you hate me?!") it's that people that they consider(ed) friends may or may not be saying pretty atrocious things about them. The not knowing? The trust issue... that's pretty heavy when a lot of people's interactions are based on these relationships.

It's easy to say don't care. Toughen up. Stiff upper lip it or gtfo, but man that break's hard when you've invested some good amount of time "getting to know" people and squeeing with them, etc.

It's going to happen. Yeah, it probably is. Everyday like you said. That doesn't mean that people have to like it. It also doesn't mean that people can't feel indignant about it. As for it being the nature of the beast (internet), well... that may be true too. Maybe the internet is naturally like that.

Again, that doesn't mean it doesn't suck and that doesn't mean that gtfo or hanging around and writing/reading fic or participating in fandom makes it any easier when you have no idea if the person squeeing with you is at the same time threading that you're a complete asshat with no imagination.

I mean. We can go back and forth all day on this. I guess my point is, or the thing I'd want to wrap up this up with is- everyone has every right to be mad about it. Yeah. I mean, of course. They have every right to be. But at the same time, that means, when I see a post that says "I don't get what the fuss is", then I have just as much right to reply to it and say, yeah. I don't either. And list the reasons why I don't, even if they aren't the same as the OP's. That's all my reply was meant to be. I mean. It seems like just replying to it is getting me involved with the thing, and honestly, that's not what I intended. I don't want in on this. I'm not personally tied to anyone involved, and I'm seeing it as an outsider. Admittedly, an outsider who's seen a lot of it on her flist today. I'm not meaning to start anything. I didn't mean to start anything, or offend anybody. But I stand by my original post, and everything I've said since then too. I empathize. I even sympathize. But this just. Remains a lot of fuss.

Completely valid and fair. I apologize if I've nattered on about it. I guess it was the original "Hate is what the internet's about" thing that got me thinking about it and wanting to respond.

The personal associations with the mess as well got me to think on it. Seeing it on my friends list for the past few days have made me both tired and sad. I just wanted to respond to someone who had a relatively coherent response that was similar but also disimilar to my own.

<3 No dude. I mean. I don't wanna- god, just, I've been there, you know? I looked back on my responses and I'm like, Jesus. I sound like such a fucking asshat. This kind of this just always sucks, and it's such a shame that it's still happening. Like I said, I didn't mean for it to come off as insensitive or derisive. I'm just. Tired and sad of it too, I guess. Thanks for not- being pissed off and everything. C:

You weren't derisive (truth be told, it's been a rough couple of days for me in addition the wank machine that this bandflesh thing has produced. tired + thinky + continued outside wankery = me commenting. hah.)

Thanks for being rational and coherent in responding ~~with your name attached~~.

Sorry. It was too good an opportunity to pass up. ;)

I am wearing my "kind of an asshole" hat, isn't it pretty?

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